What we did in closed beta. And chickens!

As you know, we weren’t in the beta that long, but we managed to level chars to late teens and also try out quite a few alts and stuff. We also played some rank 31 templated characters, which is why you’ll see things jump from Tier 2 to Tier 4 (I’ve abbreviated to T1-4)

I think it’s safe to say we all enjoyed the game and found the characters we’ll be playing as mains. I’ll be twirling a staff as the Rune Priest, Spinks will be looking pretty while creating a light show as an Archmage and Hawley will be both righteous and full of fury as a Warrior Priest. Yes, we all picked healers. It was likely to happen anyway and will in some ways shape what we post about.

We’d be happy, to answer questions on any of these things. And will no doubt be writing more about them later.

Here’s the main things we did, very much summarised and introduced by our chickens:


  • Played Archmage, Ironbreaker, Engineer, Warrior Priest, Magus
  • Quested in T1/T2 Elf, T2 Empire
  • Lots of PQs across all areas visited
  • T1 Scenarios (Elf/Empire)
  • T2 Scenarios (Empire)
  • T4 Scenarios (Empire)
  • Did open field RvR, mostly T4 in Praag, but also some T2
  • Helped in keep takes
  • Bought white pony
  • Fell off high things a lot
  • Checked Empire/Elf starting zones for cool tome unlocks


  • Played Rune Priest, Warrior Priest, Witch Hunter, Archmage, Shaman, Zealot, Swordmaster
  • Quested T1 Dwarf/Empire, T2 Dwarf
  • Lots of PQs across all areas visited
  • T1 Scenarios (Dwarf/Empire)
  • T2 Scenarios (Empire)
  • T4 Scenarios (Elf/Empire)
  • Did open field RvR (T1 and T4, mainly for objectives)
  • Bought gyro-harness
  • Fell off everything a lot
  • Checked out Dwarf starting area for cool tome unlocks


  • Played Warrior Priest, Archmage, Engineer and Witch Hunter
  • Quested T1/T2 Empire, T1 Elf, and T1 Dwarf
  • Lots of PQs across all areas
  • T1 Scenarios (Empire/Elf)
  • T2 Scenarios (Empire/Elf)
  • Tier 1 and Tier 4 Open RvR. Did a lot of keep defense in T4
  • Bought brown horse. Put brown horse on diet
  • Usually fell off high things whilst filling in feedback forms
  • Was slow to realise the potential of the Tome of Knowledge
  • Got lost a lot, especially in caves


  • Formed guild
  • Got to rank 8.5, nearly to banner design! (they there was a wipe for T4 testing)
  • Chaos night – all made rank 1 Chaos chars and went to do PQs
  • Tested calendar
  • Tested player notes

Ding dong! The Witch is… umm… temporarily indisposed?

Wotcha everyone,

It’s just gone 9pm, and here I am feeling somewhat confused.  Because I can get a tad obsessive, and because I’ve been waiting for the NDA release, I’ve been sat watching the various boards to see when the NDA was lifted.  I have some particularly geeky hobbies that will allow me to be productive whilst still pressing F5 every so often.

Imagine my joy when, about 8:40ish this evening, the Mythic website was updated with the news that “Ding dong, the witch is dead”.

Then, just as I’m chatting to Arbitrary, and we’re ready to publish, we find out that we’re possibly breaking the NDA.  Yes, the Wicked Witch of the NDA had stopped melting, and got better.

“As of now, the Non Disclosure portions of our Beta Testing Agreement is now officially lifted.”

had become:

“As of now, the Non Disclosure portions of our North American Beta Testing Agreement is now officially lifted.”

So I’m left wondering what has gone on here.  I’m wondering why, in this day of the interwebnet, where information respects no borders, we have a lifting of an NDA in one region, yet not another.  Why is it necessary that the words “North” and “America” be added?  Are Mythic not allowed to release the EU beta testers from the NDA?  And whilst I respect the employees of GOA, and wish them happy restfulness during their evenings and weekends off, surely it’s possible in this day and age to have a news release ready to go, that one man with a pda phone can fire off in two shakes of a duck’s tail?  I’ve seen it done with my own two eyes, so I know it’s possible.

We’ve been sat here checking our postings to make sure we’re not breaking the NDA.  We’ve chosen not to play fast and loose with the NDA, and we’ve been careful not to break it accidentally.  So to have this happen at the last minute is more than a little frustrating.  It’s only because we were double-checking the situation that we spotted it in time.

I have no problem waiting for tomorrow morning to publish our Beta opinions.  And I’m sure I shall look back on this a week from now and wince at my pettiness.  But I really, really hope that this is the last time we get a situation like this.


How to annoy people


The NDA portion our North American Beta Testing Agreement has been lifted. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves.

Europe’s NDA will be officially lifted tomorrow.


I really (of course) have nothing more to say. You can go read it over at the Vault boards.

Yes, I could have pretended not to have read this and posted our stuff anyway, but what the hell, you all have enough to read tonight. I wasn’t happy when Mythic dropped GOA in it by announcing additional benefits for US CE pre-orders. I’m not ecstatic by the way this has been handled. Especially as the original announcement on the Herald didn’t mention North America specifically.

But I’ll live.  And Spinks and Hawley will be posting stuff tomorrow, as I’ll be having a pleasant day at work without any use of F5 whatsoever.

Open beta site opens – NDA drops tomorrow

The Warhammer Herald has now been updated with the official news of the 7th Sept open beta. And the open beta page is now available.

This information is valid only for North America, Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore.

But I hope we will see this on the GOA site soon.

Meanwhile, over at The Vault boards, Mark Jacobs has stopped by to give an update on all manner of open beta stuff, but more importantly he includes the big news – the NDA drops tomorrow morning (or, is expected to!).

Once the NDA is lifted, Mark says he will discuss what the three issues were that held it up – we’re looking forward to that the most I think!

How we feel about the NDA

Maybe next week...

Maybe next week...

Whatever happened to beta leaks pt 2

Ruinx at WHA has a theory about the beta leaks site. He reckons that it was overloaded by traffic, not affected by any legal action. This is borne out by the current placeholder which mentions high traffic volume and that they’ll be back when they sort out some more bandwidth.

As to why more traffic recently, ponder if you will the dilemma of thousands of new people invited to test the closed beta under NDA, but not having access to any forum on which to discuss it. Even innocent issues like technical problems they have with the downloader. The NDA says explicitly that nothing should be discussed even on private forums. So really, where can people go to find this information?

We’re in the guild beta and we had similar issues with where to discuss things with our guild. If we hadn’t had access to a beta forum where GOA let us set up guild threads, we would have been casting around for alternatives too, and all with no desire at all to annoy the devs.

The answer is beta leaks. A site which shrugs off NDAs and just lets people talk about all this stuff. The NDA is directly responsible for the popularity of the site, so in a sense Mythic probably did take it down.

And as anyone who was reading it will know, the feedback on WAR had been getting a lot more popular and positive lately. I’m seeing leaks all over the place now, on blogs, forums where people haven’t read the NDA carefully, and we’ll see more. Plus of course the sites which have permission to break NDA. The NDA at this point can’t be kept, thousands more have now seen the beta and want to talk about it, and have no other place to do it.

It doesn’t matter what MJ and the crew are waiting for, they should just drop it while there is anything left to drop 😛 All that happens is that the testers who have played the game longer are not able to correct any incorrect assumptions or comments that other leakers make!

Just a quick note

Werit drew my attention to Mark’s latest posts over at Warhammer Alliance which clarify some of what’s going on with the North American and Oceanic customers (CE pre-orders mostly) and their invites to the closed beta.

It reminded me that I should have said something here earlier. While all this is going on, we’re making a concerted effort to mostly report on the European side of things. It’s getting a little confusing now and there’s a whole bunch of blogs and forums that have a more North American focus, so it’s easier for us to stick to EU news on the stages of beta.

But, interesting snippets for me included:

The new Oceanic Beta and the new NA CE Closed Beta servers will be at a different stage of testing than the non-Oceanic servers to allow the Oceanic players to play the Tier 1-3 content while the rest of the Closed Beta testers are currently playing in Tier 4.

We’ve invited about 10K players into our Oceanic Closed Beta regardless of whether they bought a CE or not. We need some volume down there so we invited both Oceanic CE buyers and non-CE buyers.

Mark speaks

Mark Jacobs has made an exhaustive post over at the Vault, listing a number of important things, including an NDA lift next week. The whole article and thread is here.

Here’s a quick summary:

  • 18th September was picked so they could have a simultaneous worldwide release
  • subscription pricing was chosen to be ‘on the same level’ as competition
  • there will be a preview weekend in addition to the normal open beta, and people who pre-ordered the CE will be given priority into the preview weekend (assume this is US until we hear otherwise)
  • CE people will get an extra day’s headstart than the SE people (I’m assuming all announcements relate specifically to the US CE/SE thing, as we know GOA are doing things a little differently – but would love this to be the case in Europe too)
  • pre-order CE peeps will be invited into closed beta as of next week, but will have to meet tech requirements to get in (again, assume America only)
  • still working on a date for open beta
  • they hope to lift the NDA next week but it’s subject to change – there are three issues they need to address first – full explanation once the NDA lifts

No NDA lift.. just yet!

Ok, so Mark Jacobs has been stopping by a couple of forums to let us know the NDA lift isn’t happening just yet. You can read his words over at Warhammer Alliance and the Vault. At the Vault boards he further clarifies himself that:

Waiting sucks, I agree but after all the work we’ve put into the game, I’d rather wait just a little bit longer till we get some things taken care of before I lift the NDA. We’ve got an important improvement going into the game next week we hope and if it works out the way we hope, I want to make sure that it’s talked about by the current beta testers. We hoped it could go in this week but it couldn’t so I’m continuing to hold up the NDA lift till its in and a couple of other things are done as well. The lift of the NDA is a rather important point in the development/marketing of the game and especially in the light of some other developers either not ever lifting the beta NDA or not lifting the NDA till launch, I want to make sure that we did it at the right time.

That makes sense to me, actually. Looks like they would have liked to lift it as soon as possible, but they want to get in one last thing first.

And hey, he said lots of news this week, possibly starting tomorrow.

Gamespy reports on beta

Want a peek behind the curtains of the NDA? Check out the extensive logs that Gamespy editors are posting all this week.

Yeah, I think NDA is about to drop imminently for everyone else too. They probably just gave the big community sites a week or so headstart on it.